My wife briefly entered the commercial real estate section of the local business news when she discovered that Tanger Outlets was building an outlet mall just a few short miles from our house! The only good news that I could garner was that I might be able to sit at home while she shops instead of grudgingly going with her and sitting on couches that are for sale in the stores.
Before the day was over, we discovered that Premium Outlets is coming too! Joy! Pure Joy! There is a substantial probability that there will be weekends that I may have the entire house to myself.
From CoStar.
I also secretly hope this leads to a large butt shaped water tower that is meant to look like a piece of fruit, similar to Gaffney SC - currently the closest location for Outlet-shopping fulfillment.
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Showing posts with label Simon. Show all posts
Tuesday, October 23, 2012
Wednesday, August 15, 2012
That is going to leave a mark
Highland Mall sold for $1.03mm, and had liquidation expenses of $13.2mm resulting in a 119.99% loss to the trust on the loan that was originally a $71mm loan and was the largest loan in the JPMCC 2002-CIB4 deal.
Highland was a feisty little cat on her way down, but this never looked like it was going to end well.
It is now home to Austin Community College, but was once a Rouse Mall and most recently a jv between GGP and Simon. Further, while dire, Realpoint only projected a 75% loss on the loan.
UPDATE: CrabsOfSteeel found this gem from HighlandMallsNotClosing.com (which seems like an otherwise dead site):
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It is now home to Austin Community College, but was once a Rouse Mall and most recently a jv between GGP and Simon. Further, while dire, Realpoint only projected a 75% loss on the loan.
UPDATE: CrabsOfSteeel found this gem from HighlandMallsNotClosing.com (which seems like an otherwise dead site):
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Mckayla is not impressed,
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Wednesday, May 23, 2012
Simon Shareholders reject (non-binding) pay package for CEO Simon
The WSJ reported that shareholders rejected the pay package for the CEO in a non-binding vote. They actually were focused on the base pay package of $1.25mm per year, not so much the $132mm potential stock option awards, because it was more than 2x that of the other employees at Simon.
It doesn't really seem like that much to me - the company is worth 45 billion and has 3,300 employees. The only surprising thing about the shareholder group's statement is that the next highest paid employee is apparently taking home closer to 1/2 a million - you'd think the other c-suite guys got more, right? I don't really look at salaries much though, so maybe I'm way off here.
It doesn't really seem like that much to me - the company is worth 45 billion and has 3,300 employees. The only surprising thing about the shareholder group's statement is that the next highest paid employee is apparently taking home closer to 1/2 a million - you'd think the other c-suite guys got more, right? I don't really look at salaries much though, so maybe I'm way off here.
Monday, August 2, 2010
FTC kicks out 3 Prime Outlets from Simon Takeover
Bodamer reports that the FTC kicked out 3 centers and reduced Simon's investment by $700mm on the Prime Outlets deal...
Monday, March 22, 2010
Extended Stay creditors attempt to freeze cash from Prime Outlets
Ruh roh.
Line Trust Corp. and Deuce Properties Ltd., junior lenders to Extended Stay, will ask a New York state judge to prohibit Lightstone Group LLC and founder David Lichtenstein from transferring cash it receives from the sale, a lawyer for the companies said. Simon Property, the largest U.S. shopping mall owner, said in December it would buy Prime Outlets Acquisition Co. from Lightstone for $2.33 billion including debt.

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Franzia,
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Sunday, March 7, 2010
Tuesday, December 8, 2009
SPG taking down Prime Outlets


I didn't see that coming - Simon paying $700mm, $2.325 bln total valuation. Lightstone needed cash from somewhere because no one would accidentally confuse them with savvy real estate investors. Probably a real good deal for Simon.
Prime Outlets Property Roster
Property | City / State | GLA (sq. ft.) |
Prime Outlets Orlando | Orlando, FL | 773,368 |
Prime Outlets Birch Run | Birch Run, MI | 681,621 |
Prime Outlets San Marcos | San Marcos, TX | 672,093 |
Prime Outlets Grove City | Grove City, PA | 532,152 |
Prime Outlets Williamsburg | Williamsburg, VA | 521,604 |
Prime Outlets Hagerstown | Hagerstown, MD | 484,906 |
Prime Outlets Ellenton | Ellenton, FL | 476,755 |
Prime Outlets Jeffersonville | Jeffersonville, OH | 409,869 |
Prime Outlets Pleasant Prairie | Pleasant Prairie, WI | 401,436 |
Prime Outlets St. Augustine | St. Augustine, FL | 338,414 |
Prime Outlets Barceloneta | Barceloneta, PR | 331,813 |
Prime Outlets Gaffney | Gaffney, SC | 303,602 |
Prime Outlets Gulfport | Gulfport, MS | 302,783 |
Prime Outlets Queenstown | Queenstown, MD | 298,409 |
Prime Outlets Huntley | Huntley, IL | 278,759 |
Prime Outlets Calhoun | Calhoun, GA | 253,667 |
Prime Outlets Lebanon | Lebanon, TN | 226,869 |
Prime Outlets Lee | Lee, MA | 224,519 |
Prime Outlets Florida City | Florida City, FL | 207,873 |
Outlet Marketplace | Orlando, FL | 204,866 |
Prime Outlets Pismo Beach | Pismo Beach, CA | 147,416 |
Prime Outlets Naples | Naples, FL | 145,966 |
Total | 8,218,760 |
Sunday, November 29, 2009
Comings and Goings
Honestly I wasn't around last week and I missed some of the excitement. It sounds like the Dubai World fiasco caught some market players by surprise, although it is not clear why anyone would be surprised that a resort surrounded by barren desert with man made ski resorts, gargantuan man made islands in the shapes of palm trees and continents, and really not much else - all conveniently in the middle of a bunch of conservative islamic states (although Dubai is an exception, I know) that would poo-poo all over anything Europeans or Americans would consider fun. Further, it's just 7 hours away (in your Gulfstream, 20 hours with layovers in Cairo or Moscow if you fly commercial) from any place that has a base of wealthy enough citizens to actually enjoy such hoopla. Really. Really, I don't have a crystal ball, but the very first time I heard about The World, I wondered to myself how that was ever going to be successful. Maybe it has been, but its just a little off-the-charts insane. All that aside, Dubai World owns a number of U.S. assets, mostly through Istithmar. A lot of the properties are in CMBS deals, most are "trophy" assets, and many are struggling. If you're up to your eyeballs in CMBS you already know this, but even if you're not, you'll recognize properties they own, such as Mandarin Oriental, 280 Park Avenue, and the W Hotel in NY. Expect to see these in the news in coming weeks as journalists recover from their tryptophan induced comas. Some of the better journalists may start digging into the transfer of assets and executives from Nakheel into Istithmar just a few months ago - there is some dirt worth digging up there.
Also, over the last couple of weeks, GGP has been making headlines. All of their loans maturing over the next 4 years have been extended to at least 2014 - we took a closer look at that here. That is substantially all (92.22%) of their CMBS debt outstanding, so if you have GGP exposure and you own current pay or next pay bonds, you may have just got slapped in the face - even worse if you bought the bonds with a 3-year TALF loan and now you have a maturity at least 5 years away. On the other hand, most longer bonds and IOs both benefit from the news.
Maturing Debt in Billions:

The more important GGP news is the announcement from Simon that they have hired advisers to look at buying all or part of GGP. We really went all out and even made a cute little map to show the overlap between Simon and GGP, and after that we started talking to folks and realized we should have included Westfield too. Sounds like we are more likely to see GGP get split up between Westfield and Simon, and maybe some other players. We'll come back to that and update it when we have time. I do think we'll see a lot of loan assumptions, especially given the terms on the newly extended low coupon loans on GGP's portfolio. That is good in terms of the loans having a better sponsor. Either way, I think we'll see GGP come out of bankruptcy before Christmas, and our equity stakes in the bankrupt company will continue to move up while our CMBS exposures will improve in terms of credit quality.
Fitch came out with a report on European CMBS (no link) that was not that revealing, but just reiterated the fact that CMBS on that side of the pond is very different than on this side. They have triggers based on periodic property valuations, shorter terms, floating coupons, and they're just really struggling.
Not sure what happens this week, but expect to see more selling as traders continue taking profits to shore up their year-end bonuses and real money buyers wait to see what their CMBS allocations for 2010 will be.
Heard retail sales for Black Friday were up from last year. I spent all day shooting skeet and trap with a very nice Beretta 391 gas powered semi-automatic 12 gauge with a complex adjustable recoil pad while you nancies stood in line for a good deal at Wal-Mart or wherever, so I'll rely on your feedback regarding how busy retailers were.
One final note, where have all the researchers gone? We realized today that Darrell Wheeler must have left Citi, and he was definitely there just a couple of weeks back. No word on his current location. Edwin Anderson left Bank of America earlier this year, Lisa Pendergast landed at Jefferies (but we're either not on her list, or they're not publishing), and Howard Esaki's current location is unknown. I think the only one that stayed put, kinda, is Roger Lehman at Bank of Amerillwide. I think Masumi Goldman may have stepped out of this market too. If they all changed careers out of CMBS, that probably doesn't bode well for the future of the CMBS market.
Also, over the last couple of weeks, GGP has been making headlines. All of their loans maturing over the next 4 years have been extended to at least 2014 - we took a closer look at that here. That is substantially all (92.22%) of their CMBS debt outstanding, so if you have GGP exposure and you own current pay or next pay bonds, you may have just got slapped in the face - even worse if you bought the bonds with a 3-year TALF loan and now you have a maturity at least 5 years away. On the other hand, most longer bonds and IOs both benefit from the news.
Maturing Debt in Billions:

The more important GGP news is the announcement from Simon that they have hired advisers to look at buying all or part of GGP. We really went all out and even made a cute little map to show the overlap between Simon and GGP, and after that we started talking to folks and realized we should have included Westfield too. Sounds like we are more likely to see GGP get split up between Westfield and Simon, and maybe some other players. We'll come back to that and update it when we have time. I do think we'll see a lot of loan assumptions, especially given the terms on the newly extended low coupon loans on GGP's portfolio. That is good in terms of the loans having a better sponsor. Either way, I think we'll see GGP come out of bankruptcy before Christmas, and our equity stakes in the bankrupt company will continue to move up while our CMBS exposures will improve in terms of credit quality.
Fitch came out with a report on European CMBS (no link) that was not that revealing, but just reiterated the fact that CMBS on that side of the pond is very different than on this side. They have triggers based on periodic property valuations, shorter terms, floating coupons, and they're just really struggling.
Not sure what happens this week, but expect to see more selling as traders continue taking profits to shore up their year-end bonuses and real money buyers wait to see what their CMBS allocations for 2010 will be.
Heard retail sales for Black Friday were up from last year. I spent all day shooting skeet and trap with a very nice Beretta 391 gas powered semi-automatic 12 gauge with a complex adjustable recoil pad while you nancies stood in line for a good deal at Wal-Mart or wherever, so I'll rely on your feedback regarding how busy retailers were.
One final note, where have all the researchers gone? We realized today that Darrell Wheeler must have left Citi, and he was definitely there just a couple of weeks back. No word on his current location. Edwin Anderson left Bank of America earlier this year, Lisa Pendergast landed at Jefferies (but we're either not on her list, or they're not publishing), and Howard Esaki's current location is unknown. I think the only one that stayed put, kinda, is Roger Lehman at Bank of Amerillwide. I think Masumi Goldman may have stepped out of this market too. If they all changed careers out of CMBS, that probably doesn't bode well for the future of the CMBS market.
Saturday, September 19, 2009
Rally fizzled on Friday - as it should...

The looser guidance of the IRS drove a rally initially, but I think the market will back up. It's like the market found out a girl that it was hot for had just decided to become a prostitute, and it got excited about the imminent action, but after a roll in the hay has realized it can never take her home to see the parentals. She'll still come in useful in the future though.
Things simply aren't good either.
- CRENews.com had an article out summarizing the rating actions year-to-date: 3,405 CMBS Downgrades, Only 82 Upgrades. Keeping in mind that rating agencies are extremely reactionary by nature (rather than making calls on the future - just wait until we actually have widespread problems).
- PCV/ST is defaulting imminently, along with a number of other high profile loans that are not cashflowing. I'm calling for a December default on PCV/ST with an over/under of 1 month - bets are now being taken.
- European CMBS loans were structured in an inherently weaker fashion in many regards, but also have additional covenants that lead to defaults faster (to protect the investor). That market is unraveling a little ahead of the domestic market. Not too mention there was ruling recently in France that allowed a Lehman-owned office building to pursue a workout strategy - DESPITE the fact that the bondholders wanted to take over the already defaulted loan as would normally happen. They're rewriting contract law everywhere, to the detriment of real estate investors, it is not just a domestic issue!
- The IRS changes its mind all the time. I'll bet a small sum that 10-years down the road we'll be able to look back and talk about a REMIC that was broken up because of some loan mod they decided they didn't like.
- Not to mention that some current- and next-pay AAA bond holders are going to be up in arms over the new IRS guidance - They already are.
- Will TALF new issue be successful? It has some draw backs that make it even less interesting to investors than the legacy TALF, which frankly hasn't seen much demand because it was structured so poorly (on purpose) by NYFRB.
- If new issue TALF isn't successful, we're going to have problems. The first new issue TALF deal should be DDR's - they have $900mm CMBS loans maturing next year, and another $500mm in 2011.
- CMBS maturities are nothing compared to banks/thrifts, but some REITs have a lot of CMBS mortgage debt to roll (I still can't believe that idiot, Cramer, would tell you to buy REITs right now). The ones with the largest maturities (all are >$500mm) next year are, in order, GGP, Vornado, DDR, Simon, Colonial, and Regency.
- Looking at REIT CMBS loan maturities over the next 3 years that exceed $1 billion, you end up with a similar list: GGP, Vornado, DDR, Simon, Regency, and Brookfield. Brookfield is an addition to the list, and has the second largest maturity schedule ($3.6billion) due the mortgages it used in the Trizec acquisition back in 2006. It has another $2 billion or so of CMBS loans due after 2012 as well.
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